Blink 182 drummer Travis Barker and his fiancée, reality TV star and entrepreneur Kourtney Kardashian, aren’t usually particularly shy when it comes to the physical aspect of their relationship. When they first met, pretty much every date they went on was very, very public display of affection. Not to mention the many Instagram odes to each other’s bodies.

But according to Kardashian, nothing makes you enjoy sex with your partner more than… not having sex with your partner. The couple recently performed a cleanse inspired by Ayevurdic medicine which claims to draw toxins out of the body through an array of techniques including herbal supplements, meditation, massage and dietary adjustments. In Kardashian and Barker’s case, this process also included a “sex fast” where they abstained from sexual contact with each other. (How long this sex detox lasts is unclear.)

“Oh my God, that was crazy,” Kardashian said Restlessness. “But it actually made everything better. Like, if you can’t have caffeine, when you have your first matcha, it’s so good.”

Kardashian shared this while discussing Poosh, the lifestyle website she oversees that is known for exploring the topic of “vibrators and porn” in depth, though she was keen to clarify that she and Barker did not need this kind of aids in the room.

“What about people who love each other so much and don’t need this?” She says. “Like, should we write a story about this?”

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